Posts by Claudia Kittel

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Assembly & C.O. /D.O. Elder meeting notes

by doinmypart in

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i attended the 2004-2005 circuit assembly this past weekend.

the internet, online chat rooms, and jw online dating was mentioned several times both days.

during both the circuit overseer's final talk on sunday and the district overseer's final talk sunday they both spent several minutes talking about how the internet poses a serious danger to god's people.

Claudia Kittel

I heard this garbage for 25 years; I never missed one of those assemblies. The only difference was that there was no internet when I was in the org. But they talked about TV, books, movies, and all the things that they didn't want anyone to do. Now, as I sit here and write this, I am wondering how they knew all about the things that they didn't want us to see or hear. Did they go to those movies, or did they watch those TV sitcoms, worst of all, did they read those books that they did not want us to read? On the internet, there are so many groups that discuss things, and I have seen some of the jw listservs, and they talk about things that happen at the meeting, and at the assembly, and then they espouse things like homosexuality, using graphic terminology and the whole bit. I am prone to think that they are so deprived that they have to do these things. It's like when a person has a craving for donuts; as soon as he sees them, he has to eat one. I remember my son when he was 16, just before he got kicked out of the org; he had been told not to smoke, not to drink beer, and above all not to fool around with girls. Guess what? He met a sister whose mom told me that she was doing really well, and pioneering and everything, and on the sly she was trying to convince my son that she was pregnant and it was his child, so he would marry her. My son did not fall for it, but he tol d me about it two years later. So the point I'm making is that these teenagers who are curtailed by the Society figure out some way to get where they want to go, and the Society reallly has no control over it, no matter what they say at these assemblies.

Notice the first three letters of the word ASSEMBLY

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Similarities!

by Voyager in

good moring everyone:.

i had just thought briefly, that if american soldiers are to receive court martial, or some kind of discipline for (smiling) or giving the (thumbs up) over the deaths of iraq prisoners and victims--then perhaps jehovah's witnesses who give the very same (smiles) and approval of death victims, should likewise be disciplined as well.. look at these similarities.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6217.htm .

Claudia Kittel

I saw the pictures, and they are all similar in nature to the attitudes of the buttholes I used to hang with for 25 years in that org.

I want to say in response to Danny, whom I respect very much, that regarding that comment you made about Bird Food, there is a so called Brother who used to live in CA and now lives in North Carolina, who told me that all my kids were going to be Bird Food, and if I hadn't been in the back seat of a car in which we were riding, I would have slapped him upside the head. I never forgot it, and he is one person I never forgave.

Hang then high, Danny!!

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BIG TEX Peek a Boo....I See You...

by xjw_b12 in

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ok i know you've gone into hibernation.

do you and onacruise have a contest going to see who can go the longest without posting?

i caught your "edit" the other day, and nina " accidentally" posting under your login to the chili thread.

Claudia Kittel

Just saying Hi and God Bless.
C

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Watchtower Society owns Airplane

by Amazing in

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the watchtower society owns an airplane ... and it had an incident which was filed with teh faa / ntsb.. .

on june 12, 1995, at 1530 alaska daylight time, a wheel equipped cessna 402b airplane, n710ws, registered to and operated by the watchtower bible organization and tract society, collapsed its nose gear while taxiing back after landing.

the business flight, operating under 14 cfr part 91, departed good news, alaska, and the destination was tuntutuliak, alaska.

Claudia Kittel

I wouldn't be surprised if they owned a limousine, a couple boats, and a few buses for mass transit, and they wanted you to be a 100 hour per month pioneer with at least 25 bible studies, a mag route of 20 recipients, and if they dimished from that, they would get their fuel tanks emptied, their tires flattened, and of course the society would have to know exactly where they were going; they would put a phone in the vehicle or cockpit, and call them while they were flying or driving.

very sick

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WT in Denmark lost case

by Nordic in

today i have heard that wt and the acussed man of childabuse have lost a case against tv2 in denmark.

it was about the tv program dags dato th 24 november 2002. .

the case began short after the program.

Claudia Kittel

Actually, I'm not at all amzed that the wt continues to stand behind those types. They don't have the truth and they are not God's People, and the sooner this message gets out to the organization, the better. When they stand by a person like that, knowing all the person's faults, and yet not admitting to knowing them, that makes them liars besides.

So the phrase, "stand by your Child Molester": can be stated in more eloquent language, which would make this column worse than porn, but I think you get the message.

See you later,

Claudia

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Harley Miller Died

by FreePeace in

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i heard from my mom that harley miller died in california -- apparently -- today.

i understand he had gone there for a pacemaker, but died before he could get it.. he had an article in the wt or awake 10 -12 years ago.

although i didn't know him, he sounded like a pretty decent fellow.. fp

Claudia Kittel

P>I really do feel bad about situations which arise out of the ignorance of the wt. ; I know that injustice is practiced on all levels of this horrible cult. ; My best friend was the wife of an elder, and this elder was hot to trot for ;their daughter, and my friend knew it and was jealous but could do nothing about it. ; The daughter ran away from home on Mother's day in 1994, and upon returning home, begging for helpl from her parents, she was disfellowshipped. ; My friend was not allowed by the elders to help her, and she said I could not talk to her because she was disfellowshipped. ; I told her that the daughter needed encouragement and she should know that I had been glad to see her and the mom should tell her. ; In 1995, I had moved to southern california, and she wrote me a letter, saying that he daughter had been aaked to leave the house again, after having a party with a cousin, and I wrote back that her daughter needed help getting off drugs. ; She never wrote me back. ; A month later, I left the org, and did not care if she wrote me or not. ; I sent the daughter tracts from a program called Teen Challenge, and since I had to send it to the parents' house, not knowing any other address, I have no idea what transpired from it.
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I pray for her, and my friend and my frieds's two other children, that they get out of there and fast. ; That is my prayer for all my friends who are still in there, and being brainwashed by the cult.
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May the Lord bless these and all others who need Him.
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Claudia

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Harley Miller Died

by FreePeace in

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i heard from my mom that harley miller died in california -- apparently -- today.

i understand he had gone there for a pacemaker, but died before he could get it.. he had an article in the wt or awake 10 -12 years ago.

although i didn't know him, he sounded like a pretty decent fellow.. fp

Claudia Kittel

I really do feel bad about situations which arise out of the ignorance of the wt. I know that injustice is practiced on all levels of this horrible cult. My best friend was the wife of an elder, and this elder was hot to trot for their daughter, and my friend knew it and was jealous but could do nothing about it. The daughter ran away from home on Mother's day in 1994, and upon returning home, begging for helpl from her parents, she was disfellowshipped. My friend was not allowed by the elders to help her, and she said I could not talk to her because she was disfellowshipped. I told her that the daughter needed encouragement and she should know that I had been glad to see her and the mom should tell her. In 1995, I had moved to southern california, and she wrote me a letter, saying that he daughter had been aaked to leave the house again, after having a party with a cousin, and I wrote back that her daughter needed help getting off drugs. She never wrote me back. A month later, I left the org, and did not care if she wrote me or not. I sent the daughter tracts from a program called Teen Challenge, and since I had to send it to the parents' house, not knowing any other address, I have no idea what transpired from it.

I pray for her, and my friend and my frieds's two other children, that they get out of there and fast. That is my prayer for all my friends who are still in there, and being brainwashed by the cult.

May the Lord bless these and all others who need Him.

Claudia

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JW Bro-in law dies

by borgfree in

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sunday my brother-in-law, loyd gardiner, died.

he was an elder in the richmond, indiana congregation for about 50 years.. my son and i are having real problems deciding what to do.

we had decided not to go to the services because almost everyone there will be jws and we do not see the need to expose ourselves to the rude treatment by them.. i got a phone message last night from someone, not baptized jw, who thought we should go to the viewing today, to show "our respects".

Claudia Kittel

I think it's so sad when we can't attend the funeral or the wedding of someone whom we love, because of some lies that are told to us by people who think they are right and everybody else is wrong. Even yet, I think it's even more sad that a Jehovah's Witness dies without knowing the truth; even thinking that they do know the truth and they don't. That is why I want my friend Alisha to go to Teen Challenge and get help from her drug problem, and I want her mother Debbie to know that I love her and want her to get out of there and get her other two children out of there. She has Lupus and she gets very sick, and those people won't help her unless she does exactly what they say, and she is getting worse and they don't care.

Now that I have said that, I want everybody to know that it's okay to go to the funerals of those you love, because they are in a better place than even Jehovah's Witnesses want for them, and it's okay to go to the weddings of those you love, because in doing that, you are supporting their getting married and not shacking up as is the habit of many of these young people.

Please never forsake your family just because of any church.

Claudia

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Harley Miller Died

by FreePeace in

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i heard from my mom that harley miller died in california -- apparently -- today.

i understand he had gone there for a pacemaker, but died before he could get it.. he had an article in the wt or awake 10 -12 years ago.

although i didn't know him, he sounded like a pretty decent fellow.. fp

Claudia Kittel

Jehovah's Witnesses have an unhealthy habit of waiting until iti's too late to go for treatment, and that's probably why it happened. And it's so sad to think he was a nice guy, and he never learned the truth.

Claudia

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What do you fear the most about the WT cult?

by Claudia Kittel in

when i was a jw, i think what i was most afraid of was being hurt.

i did everything to keep myself from getting hurt.

i banged on doors with the best of the pioneers.

Claudia Kittel

When I was a jw, I think what I was most afraid of was being hurt. I did everything to keep myself from getting hurt. I banged on doors with the best of the Pioneers. I went to all the meetings, so everybody would like me. I was a doormat. I even taught my son to raise his hand and give answers to questions. My husband, who was a factor in getting me to join the WT, told me it was my fault that he didn't go to meetings. He told other sisters a different story. He told them that he refused to go to meetings until he could stop looking at women and imagining them in the altogether. The first time I heard him say this, I did not know what to think. Then when he said he wanted to get baptized, I simply figured that he had licked his problem. But a year later, he said it again to another sister. I guess this was his problem; he only wanted to tell this to sisters. I know a lot of sisters were scared of him, but so was I. I was scared that he would hurt me, and I was scared that other sisters would hurt me, too, so I was a doormat. It takes a long time, when you've been a doormat all your life, to stop yourself from being one.

Thanks to Jesus, I am no longer a doormat.

Praise God!!